Bloomfield Shows 50% increase over the latest EE Chip!!!

[T_Flight]

WOW Guys! This will knock you out of your chair.

The link below shows benchmarks bewteen the latest 2.93 QX9650 Extreme Edition, and a 2.93 Bloomfield Nehalem Chip. It's benching 50% faster! :thumb:

That sucker really does rock! These are the first hard numbers shown I have seen screens of. At the bottom of the page you can also go and see and read about them on Extreme Systems.

I cannot wait to get my hands on this thing! It's gonna be so much fun. :bigsmile::thumb::bigsmile:

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7881.html

[snacker]

When?

[T_Flight]

It's all in the article at EOC. It will be here 4Q 08. :thumb:

[T_Flight]

One more thing to add is that the chips are ready now. Those "in the know" said they had eyes on them now. The holdup is the Motherboards with the X58 chipsets. As soon as those are ready they should start to roll them out. I'm also looking for good overclocking memory specifficly for this chip. I'll need three sticks for the triple channel, and haven't seen anything along those lines from OCZ yet, so I guess we're waiting on that too.

The cards are out. I'll be going with a GTX280 if the timing is right. The price will ahve to come down though. I expect it will come down some by the time Intel releases the chips, and the mobo manufacturer's release the good OC'ing boards.

We're in a whole new era again! This is the new Chip on the block. :thumb:

[snacker]

I read the chip will be very expensive at launch. But I'll get the GTX280 for now. Next year, a different futureproof rig.

[T_Flight]

I read the chip will be very expensive at launch. But I'll get the GTX280 for now. Next year, a different futureproof rig.

From what Intel has released, it's really not looking too bad on the pricing. The Extreme Bloomfield will be expensive...those always are the most expensive becasue they are hand picked and binned "cherries" with unlocked Multi's. They also tend to have higher OC'ing headroom, asnd sometimes sport more cache. Details on that though are TBD. Pricing looks to be around 1000 dollars for the EE's (the ones specifficly designed for max performance and all out gaming, benching, and the like...for the pertson who wants the very best and money is no object), 4-500 for Enthusiast level chips (the ones high end gamers get usually and are usually good OC'ers), and around 3-400 for mainstream Nehalems that will be out around 1H 09.

Look for Blue Intel Charts and be sure the charts are Intel release info. There are alot of charts out there, and with CPU's alot of Fanboism too. The best place to get straight info where they won't put up with Fanboi BS is EOC.

I'm gonna wait a bit on the GTX 280 myself, becasue I don't need it, but I know that prices willk come down when the addicts buy up the first run. Buy the time the rest of the sysrtem is out, I'll be sitting pretty.

I also fold for the Fighter Ops Team, and a system like I'll be building is capable of Folding the most intensive WU's extremely fast. The GTX280 is also capable of oputting the most points on the board in the shortest amount of time to date. I suspect I can do something like 2500-3000 points per day with just that one system.

The gaming performance on s system like that will have to be test down the road. I will be benchmarking it, but I doubt there are very many titles that will be able to load it at all. Maybe FO will be able to.

This is a 5 year buy for me. Once it's bought it will last 5 years. Like the one I'm typing on now, it will have to. I've had this Socket 478 Prescott System for about 6 now, and it's just now starting to show its age. I was gonna build a Conroe system until I found out that Intel was upgrading the Socket so I decided to wait, and now I soooooo glad I did.

This will NOT be a cheap system. I would never tell anybody it would be. Only the highest end stuff geared for max performance, and max OC'ing potential will be used. It will be water cooled from the get go, and that is not cheap either. The RAM will be in Triple Channel and will require 3 sticks of high end OCZ RAM that can achive max clocks. It might be 3GB or 3 stick of 2GB each for a total of 6. I may even setup a RAM drive.

These new Bloomfield Enthusiast and Extreme levwel chips are no joke. I have seen the numbers. I was told numbers before, but now I have seen the screens. Tghose guys at EOC don;t post BS. There is the occasional passing fanboi comment, but they are quickly quelled there by people who work with this stuff everyday. There are guys in that thread that work at Intel and have had eyes on these chips. If they've seen them, then I'm sure they have them. Many of the people that work there get free Confidential Engineerring Sample CPU's. There are still under NDA right now, and can only release what they are allowed to, so some info is still TBD, but it's getting very near release now, so the info should really start flowing now that the Benchmarks have been shown.

Also remeber that the Benches shown were with the memory working in Single CHannel only. Intel will NOT be releasing screens of samples working in Tri channel until close to release. I've been told that point blank by the people that actually have these chips and are testing them. The boards are still not ready. When the X58 boards come out, we will know alot more. That will also be a sign that release is immenent.

[Playloud]

I also fold for the Fighter Ops Team, and a system like I'll be building is capable of Folding the most intensive WU's extremely fast. The GTX280 is also capable of oputting the most points on the board in the shortest amount of time to date. I suspect I can do something like 2500-3000 points per day with just that one system.
The Bloomfield alone would get over 3000 ppd running SMP (I would say at least 4000 ppd). The GTX 280 card has also been tested with Folding@home, and one person (probably via overclock) is getting about 8500ppd with the card alone. Running SMP of Bloomfield at the same time as the 280 should give you about another 3000 (as the 280 will take one of the CPU cores), for a total of about 11500ppd, if you really push it (OC plus 24/7 use).

[T_Flight]

:rofl:thumb:WooooHooo! Man I am loving this. I'm not gonna go too insane with the OC, but will do a 24/7 stable OC on water so it should be pretty high.

That's another thing I'm looking around for is a water block. I really hope that Swiftech comes out with a block made specifficly for that CPU. I've been reading up snd we're gonna need it. The current gen blocks are made more for the 775 and may not do very well with the larger bloomfield CPU's even if you modded the mounting plate.

It's always the same with this new stuff. It's hard to get everything for them.

[BHawthorne]

I also fold for the Fighter Ops Team, and a system like I'll be building is capable of Folding the most intensive WU's extremely fast. The GTX280 is also capable of oputting the most points on the board in the shortest amount of time to date. I suspect I can do something like 2500-3000 points per day with just that one system.


I have given up totally on CPU folding. Why spend insaine amounts of cash on CPU folding when you can buy 8800GS and 9600GSO video cards used for $50 now. That's 4500-5000 PPD per card @ $50 per. I'm nothing but 8800's in my folding farm now. Been picking up one card per week to add to the farm. That's making my PPD ramp up quite nicely. :thumb:

Go with cheap used hardware:

$80 680i tri-sli mobo
$50 E1200
$50 8800GS
$50 8800GS
$50 8800GS
$50 PSU
$20 ram
$10 4GB USB thumb drive (vistape installed)

= $360 for 15000 PPD single system

It's been a lot cheaper than that for me though. I have old SLI mobos, cpus, PSUs, HDs, ram all sitting around idle. Been throing in 8800's into anything I have sitting in boxes as parts. My plan is to standardize the farm into the hardware above over time though. That hardware will only get cheaper down the road too. I'm currently running 5 8800GS and 2 8800GTS in my farm. With the above setup, that means I could churn out 30,000 PPD on just 2 mobos.

[Playloud]

I have given up totally on CPU folding. Why spend insaine amounts of cash on CPU folding when you can buy 8800GS and 9600GSO video cards used for $50 now. That's 4500-5000 PPD per card @ $50 per. I'm nothing but 8800's in my folding farm now. Been picking up one card per week to add to the farm. That's making my PPD ramp up quite nicely. :thumb:

Go with cheap used hardware:

$80 680i tri-sli mobo
$50 E1200
$50 8800GS
$50 8800GS
$50 8800GS
$50 PSU
$20 ram
$10 4GB USB thumb drive (vistape installed)

= $360 for 15000 PPD single system

It's been a lot cheaper than that for me though. I have old SLI mobos, cpus, PSUs, HDs, ram all sitting around idle. Been throing in 8800's into anything I have sitting in boxes as parts. My plan is to standardize the farm into the hardware above over time though. That hardware will only get cheaper down the road too. I'm currently running 5 8800GS and 2 8800GTS in my farm. With the above setup, that means I could churn out 30,000 PPD on just 2 mobos.
Yeah, multiple GPUs are great!. When I built my system, the GPU2 client wasn't available, and SMP was the big badass on the block. I can get 5900ppd on my quad when I get the latest work units. That's with no video card installed (very good for the electric bill.) Also, keep in mind that Stanford needs CPU folding as well, as they are the only folding machines that run explicit solvent models. GPU2/PS3 only run implicit solvent models (although they both perform well).

Out of curiosity, how loud are your systems? 3 GPUs in afterburner? Seems like it would be rather loud. Another reason I am happy with CPU folding. I built it with a big heatsink, and quiet fans, so I can't hear my system from the other side of the room.

Granted, I can't compete with a 3 GPU system (not even close), but the production I get out of my cpu isn't bad either. As I said, 5900ppd without a video card installed if I am working on the latest work units (about 3000ppd on the old work units).

My next system will probably be in a couple years, after the Core i7 die shrink. I read they will have 6-core versions of i7 at that time, so I will probably build a dual-6-core system. Somebody has to work on those explicit solvent models =). I will probably buy a video card for my current quad, and turn that into my gaming system. I could then fold on the CPU and GPU when I'm not gaming, and still have one pure CPU (12 cores) rig for dedicated folding.

BTW, when are you going to fold for the Fighter Ops team (88653)? :evils:


Folding@home:
- Q6600 @ 3.2GHz (400x8) - 2048MB RAM - Ubuntu 8.04 - SMP (24/7)
- Dell Inspiron 1520 Notebook - T7100 Stock - 2048MB RAM - Ubuntu 8.04 - SMP
- Playstation 3
Folding@work:
- HP Pentium D 2.8GHz - 1024MB RAM - Win XP - SMP (24/7)
- HP Pentium 4 3.2GHz - 1024MB RAM - Win XP - v5.04 (24/7)

[BHawthorne]

My goal is best PPD/$. That leaves out most CPU folding except on the farm cpu cores.


Out of curiosity, how loud are your systems? 3 GPUs in afterburner? Seems like it would be rather loud. Another reason I am happy with CPU folding. I built it with a big heatsink, and quiet fans, so I can't hear my system from the other side of the room.

They're currently in a spare bedroom. The noise the fans are noticable, but I tune them out when in the room. Half the nose is that I run a box fan over the cases though to force air circulation. When I get my farm standardized it'll be on wall racks in a storage area out of the way in the basement. That way it could sound like a chainsaw and it wouldn't matter, because I don't use the basement for much other than storage. Besides, the ambient room temps down there will be a good 5-10 degrees cooler. :)


BTW, when are you going to fold for the Fighter Ops team (88653)? :evils:

111065 :evils:

[Playloud]

Bah, they have enough users. We need your points more (even if you are a forum moderator there) =)
Why don't you put ONE of your machines for our team at least =)

[BHawthorne]

Bah, they have enough users. We need your points more (even if you are a forum moderator there) =)
Why don't you put ONE of your machines for our team at least =)

Hrrrm, ok. The next tri-sli system I build I'll throw in 88653. That should do 15k PPD. :smile:

[Playloud]

:thumb:

[BHawthorne]

Another thing to ponder. These GPU farm setups will make for good simpit hardware also. They can be churning PPD while not flying. :smile:

[Playloud]

They're currently in a spare bedroom. The noise the fans are noticable, but I tune them out when in the room. Half the nose is that I run a box fan over the cases though to force air circulation. When I get my farm standardized it'll be on wall racks in a storage area out of the way in the basement. That way it could sound like a chainsaw and it wouldn't matter, because I don't use the basement for much other than storage. Besides, the ambient room temps down there will be a good 5-10 degrees cooler. :)
Ah, that helps out a lot. My system is in my bedroom, which is where I do my TV watching. I would go insane if I had to listen to multiple computers in a tri-sli config. hehe.

If I ever get a place where I have a spare room that can be used for a farm, I will seriously consider such a setup.

[Playloud]

Another thing to ponder. These GPU farm setups will make for good simpit hardware also. They can be churning PPD while not flying. :smile:
I haven't flown in a LONG time. I am hoping Fighter Ops can bring me out of retirement. I just don't have the flying bug like I used to (played a lot of F4 back in the day). When FO is released, I will look into putting together a good system for it (with folding ability in mind :wink2:)