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KING_RICHARD
12-28-2006, 18:58
okay income taxes are coming soon enough, and i have to decide what to upgrade while i have the money for it and the wife somewhat willing.

current specs are
amd 4000+,
2x160gig hd (not raid, didnt notice performance increase with it on so i have windows and accessories on one hd and games on another)
1 gig ram x 2 (patriot 2700) 2gig total
asus a8n32sli mobo
evga 6800gs
500watt pwr

now the question, should i upgrade the processor while it's still around and flirting around 450$ or upgrade to windows vista and the video card.

_Big_Mac_
12-28-2006, 19:19
IMHO your current processor is good enough, but that 6800 seems a tad old.
I suggest waiting for DX10 video cards (don't buy 8800 yet, wait till there are more and better choices on the market, this card has issues)

KING_RICHARD
12-28-2006, 19:35
was just looking up the 8800's dont seem too shabby except for like you mentioned with a few hiccups on some rigs.

but only concern with the processor is how long do they usually stay on the market before they are no longer available, since amd has swithced there pins. never followed cpu before, until bout a year ago.

also i see your location is poland. are originally from poland? just wondering cuz i'm half polish, last name kalinowski

Afterburner
12-29-2006, 11:14
Socket 939 has reached EOL. I suggest getting a high end Dual-Core 939 ASAP while you still can. The Graphics card is old but that can wait as there will be plenty of options and ATI's full DX10 monster, the R600, is coming Q1 2007... :tongue:

BHawthorne
12-29-2006, 11:23
That 4000+ is still very viable. The FX series is a big waste of money. This is coming from someone who only uses AMD. The non-FX chips can preform at FX clocks with no special tricks. Only diff is locked mulipliers, so a bit less flexibility in how you do it.

3rdELTy
12-29-2006, 11:37
also i see your location is poland. are originally from poland? just wondering cuz i'm half polish, last name kalinowski
Cool... Have you ever visited Poland?

_Big_Mac_
12-29-2006, 11:41
also i see your location is poland. are originally from poland? just wondering cuz i'm half polish, last name kalinowski

Yep, born here and living here :)

Afterburner
12-29-2006, 11:47
That 4000+ is still very viable. The FX series is a big waste of money. This is coming from someone who only uses AMD. The non-FX chips can preform at FX clocks with no special tricks. Only diff is locked mulipliers, so a bit less flexibility in how you do it.
Then he can do what I did, buy an Opteron 165 (Dual-Core @ 1.8Ghz) and overclock the hell outa it... :tongue: They can be had for bout USD$150 iirc.... :tongue: I am running 100mhz faster per core than an FX-60 while still havin 2 x 1mb of L2 cache like the FX-60. Saved me loads of dough and is considerably faster coz of the extra 100mhz per core and overclocked RAM in the process..... :evils:

KING_RICHARD
12-29-2006, 20:47
never been to poland yet, but it's one of my top things on my list to do. just gotta wait till i'm outta the military and have enough money saved to do it.

overclocking is something that i haven't tried yet, havent been able to find a good guide on how to do it on my mobo.....but if you think the 4000 has potential of being as good as the fx than i might have to give it a go.

or am i better off getting a dual core.

Afterburner
12-30-2006, 10:25
Minimum is a Dual-Core to prepare for the upcoming games esp FO. Like i mentioned, 939 have EOL so you better grab one ASAP. The 4000+ is clocked @ 2.4Ghz iirc and has limited overclocking success compared to the 3000+ and 3200+ chips. Lemme know if you need any asistance... :wink2:

Playloud
12-30-2006, 17:14
Intel Quad core

Then again, that would require a new motherboard as well.

KING_RICHARD
12-30-2006, 19:27
not an intel fan, and i'll have to upgrade to the duo core soon as it income tax time, but in the mean while Afterburner, do you know any useful links on overclocking, i've searched a few but dont like the layout of the steps, i played around a little bit last night and just did an auto 5% increase since i tried playing with the multipliers and the cpu went up to about 2.6 but the rest of the computer seemed to slow down, dont know why though.

Playloud
12-30-2006, 19:34
Intel has leapfrogged AMD with its latest line of processors. It may be worth considering.

KING_RICHARD
12-30-2006, 19:51
yeah i've noticed intel has surpassed amd for the time being, but switching mobos for it isnt what i wanna do with all the advancements in technology right now, i'm gonna have to wait a year or two for everything to slow down a little.

with quads being anounced, that will probally be my future rig, but thats a while down the road. and by the time i'm ready for that there will probally be something better.

Playloud
12-30-2006, 20:01
Personally, I am going to wait until Fighter Ops is released. Then I will decide how I am going to upgrade. My current rig isn't super, but it does everything I need it to at the moment.

Afterburner
12-31-2006, 20:40
in the mean while Afterburner, do you know any useful links on overclocking
Here you go buddy.... :smile:

Link (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1158374&postcount=1) 1
Link (http://hardwarelogic.com/news/131/ARTICLE/1170/2006-04-20.html) 2
Link (http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=327) 3
Link (http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Guides/athlon64oc/index.html) 4

KING_RICHARD
12-31-2006, 21:46
thanks for the links, seems very useful, now i just gotta read through em and play around.

Afterburner
01-01-2007, 04:50
your welcome...... :wink2:

KING_RICHARD
01-23-2007, 03:39
okay hate to bring this back up but ran into another problem here, cant decide to go with fx60 or the opteron 185 denmark 2.6ghz, everthing seems to be the same except the ht is 1000mhz on the 185 and 2000mhz on the fx60. and if it's a difference i'm not gonna notice, than i would like to save 200$ for something else.

bingo
01-25-2007, 01:48
KR
I talked to a friend of mine that's more in tune to whats better for what I need as a upgrade to hold me till the quads and dx10 cards are out, he suggested I get a fx60 for my 939 and upgrading my gc to a x1900xtx from a x850xt pe. this hopefully hold me for another 6 months to a year, been pricing them and looks like I may go this route

KING_RICHARD
01-25-2007, 03:20
have you tried finding a comparison between these two cpu that i mentioned above though? i've been unable to do so myself, so if you do find one let me know please. and if you also get the fx60 before i upgrade would you let me know how you like it.

Afterburner
01-25-2007, 22:30
The Opteron 185 and FX-60 are virtually the same CPUs. Both are Dual-Core @ 2.6Ghz and 1mb L2 cache per core. Opteron for Server market and FX for Gamer crowd. I am very sure their HTs are the same which is 200mhz x 5 = 1000mhz Hyper Transport (HT). Get which ever is cheaper dude. I went for an Opteron 165 and am running it @ 2.7Ghz, still faster then the other 2 and much cheaper.... :evils:

KING_RICHARD
01-26-2007, 02:20
knew i could count on ya for a good reply that i was hoping to hear, thanks afterburner, so once my taxes go through and i get the cpu, i'll let you all know how i feel about it, cuz maybe it'll save someone else some cash.

Afterburner
01-26-2007, 21:55
Looking forward to that....... :wink2: