FSX Screens

[Bosniaguy]

Downloaded demo and made a few screenshots to share with you guys. It's 05:00 AM so really not in a mood to write alot but one thing I can tell. It's worth it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/mmujicic/fsx2006-08-1004-47-45-71.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/mmujicic/fsx2006-08-1004-28-34-45.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/mmujicic/fsx2006-08-1004-28-29-39.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/mmujicic/fsx2006-08-1004-28-23-07.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/mmujicic/fsx2006-08-1004-27-27-25.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/mmujicic/fsx2006-08-1004-27-14-87.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/mmujicic/fsx2006-08-1004-24-57-28.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/mmujicic/fsx2006-08-1004-22-49-09.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/mmujicic/fsx2006-08-1004-22-28-57.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/mmujicic/fsx2006-08-1004-20-42-71.jpg

[Bosniaguy]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/mmujicic/fsx2006-08-1004-20-20-60.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/mmujicic/fsx2006-08-1004-20-12-96.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/mmujicic/fsx2006-08-1004-19-48-59.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/mmujicic/fsx2006-08-1004-19-30-89.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/mmujicic/fsx2006-08-1005-18-51-51.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/mmujicic/fsx2006-08-1004-19-17-93.jpg

[Funky]

That looks so much like FS9 to me... :hhmmm

Can you do me a favor and tell me if:
1) Prop down-wash on the control surfaces is simulated?
2) stall is triggered by passing the critical AoA instead of airspeed?
3) Any weather radar is simulated?
and 4) anything feels scripted?

I appreciate the pictures mate :wink2: ! Please keep them coming !

Funky

[liquid_rockface]

Yeah, looks like FS9 with crinkly water :nono:

[lqcorsa]

My FS-X looks nothing like that. This guy looks like his graphics card makes jagged edges, and this guy obiously has most of his graphics on low. Trust me it looks so much better than that. I am however having a bad throttle problem in the demo right now though. When I move my throttle forward and let go of it it sends it strait back, so I end up having to move my throttle back and forrth really fast to make sure it stays constant...

[Nighthawk]

yeh FSX looks nothing like what those screenshots show crank your settings man! heres some of mine hurrah for if being backwards compatible with my fs2004 add ons

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/853/hornetrq3.jpg
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/5487/hornet2dw8.jpg

[Lance]

dude..i want that F-18 lol!


Flip

[Nighthawk]

its the aerial foundry one very purdy

[Bosniaguy]

My FS-X looks nothing like that. This guy looks like his graphics card makes jagged edges, and this guy obiously has most of his graphics on low. Trust me it looks so much better than that. I am however having a bad throttle problem in the demo right now though. When I move my throttle forward and let go of it it sends it strait back, so I end up having to move my throttle back and forrth really fast to make sure it stays constant...

Everything was to the max on my GF6600GT.

@Funky:

Yes it's pretty much FS9 behind. But the flying experience is much better than FS9.

I'll check what you've asked bud and will let you know.

[PiF]

Here F-16 screenshots...:bigsmile: :bigsmile:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/Twix101/FS-Xscreenshot.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/Twix101/FS-Xscreenshot2.jpg

:tongue:

[bingo]

its the aerial foundry one very purdy

Nighthawk
Yeh, I use the aerial foundry F-18 Blue Angel, It's one of the few A/C that all my radios, A/P, Xpder, all switches etc, work great. A/C flies great but at higher speeds graphics take longer to load, Frame rates really drop when you crank it up and drop to the deck

[Playloud]

Everything was to the max on my GF6600GT. Anti Aliasing (for sure) and Ansiotropic Filtering (I think) were off. I can't even run anything with Anti Aliasing off any more. The jaggies just stick out too much now that I am used to having it on.

[Funky]

Am I supposed to be getting single digit FPS up to 20 FPS with my system? I mean come on !! For some reason some of the graphics are jacked up also. For example, anytime a light goes on, the graphics go a little weird on the plane, where they're supposed be lighten up.
In addition to that, the water looks really pretty, but I cant see the distance from myself to it. I will crash into it when I think I'm at 1500 feet. It basically doesn't show the distance or change as I approach it.
And the third thing:

WHERE IS HEAT BLUR ?!?!?!?!?!

PS. My anti aliasing doesnt work in fullscreen mode!

Funky

[SUBS17]

How about this Hornet
http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=101;t=002605

http://www.undersea3d.com/images/VRS/FA18E_external1.jpg
http://www.undersea3d.com/images/VRS/VRS_FA18E_VC4.jpg
http://www.undersea3d.com/images/VRS/nightshot.jpg

[bingo]

Playloud
I've been playing around with AA & AF for a while now and drivers for your graphics card has a lot to do with it, I only use the AA & AF settings on the card 4x AA and 16X AF, I was using the DNA drivers for my ATI X850XT OC to 555 and 570 and had great frame rates but went back to the Omega drivers from Guru3D and the frame rates dropped but the graphics seem to be better and it is more stable, Bigger processor doesen't hurt

[Vampyre]

How about this Hornet
http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=101;t=002605

http://www.undersea3d.com/images/VRS/FA18E_external1.jpg
http://www.undersea3d.com/images/VRS/VRS_FA18E_VC4.jpg
http://www.undersea3d.com/images/VRS/nightshot.jpg
The tires and main landing gear are wrong. Looks like they used the F/A-18C as the model. So, is this an APG-73 bird or a AESA bird? Everything else looks pretty accurate.

Tomcats Rule! Anytime Baby!

[SUBS17]

Its a payware addon in for FS2004, check the link I posted as one of the guys who made it has commented on SimHQ. If you have a look you'll see that they have done alot of good work on the pit and MFDs. Best I've seen yet for FS2004. They probably got the landing gear off the F/A-18C model that they made a while back, it looks nice though really belongs in a combat sim(bit of a waste being in FS2004).

[drawninward]

sweet merciful crap those land textures look HORRIBLE...they might look ok from 30,000 feet, but jesus...that's always been my number one pet peave about MSFS...horrid low alt textures...and it seems like they haven't fixed anything in that department...I hope a lot changes between the demo and the actual game =/

Oh, by the way, that hornet pit is awesome!

[PiF]

So this a test screenie maybe due to FPS drop he was unable to dsiplay much higher res textures...:smile:

[PiF]

Exemple of FS-X Textures:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/Twix101/FS-Xscreenshot3.jpg

And it doesn't reach the maximum, it is unable in the beta to reach 7cm/pxl resolution textures.

[drawninward]

wow....is 7cm / pixel planned for the release? That would be awesome. if you google earth cambridge, MA, that's about what that is...that pic you have above there looks like about a foot or more / pixel.

[all-fired-up]

sweet merciful crap those land textures look HORRIBLE...they might look ok from 30,000 feet, but jesus...that's always been my number one pet peave about MSFS...horrid low alt textures...and it seems like they haven't fixed anything in that department...I hope a lot changes between the demo and the actual game =/

Oh, by the way, that hornet pit is awesome!

They look better than that if you ramp up the sliders. I have all my sliders on max. That includes all water and land texture...everything. I'm running on a 3.2 GHz with 2GB RAM and an Nvidia GeForce 6800 256 video memory and it's pretty smooth, frame rates in the 20-30's with all sliders maxed. There are some graphic glitches in this demo like flickering of the water and some shader issues however and hopefully they will be resolved by the time FSX comes out. Also sometimes the water and texture if set on max takes a little bit to load. That being said, the water is totally cool and finally gives a sense of depth. Also the Autogen is smart, unlike FS9 which places autogen scenery everywhere randomly. Here it's actually in the right spots. Also traffic is seen although as the readme indicates is still unfinished.

I look forward to FSX. :thumb:

I heard that FSX for Vista with DirectX 10 will really shine. :bigsmile:

Heres what mine looks like right now, even in a major thunderstorm my FSX demo runs smooth :thumb: .

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8918/fsx0zn0.jpg

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/1197/fsx32ey8.jpg

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/5776/fsx49ap2.jpg

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7246/fsx55sp8.jpg

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/2494/fsx64qq8.jpg

[drawninward]

dang....

good stuff.

I need to upgrade.

[169th Ross]

I look forward to FSX. :thumb:

I heard that FSX for Vista with DirectX 10 will really shine. :bigsmile:

Heres what mine looks like right now, even in a major thunderstorm my FSX demo runs smooth :thumb: .

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8918/fsx0zn0.jpg

Very nice screenshots, but the strange thing is, i put everything on high + AA etc.. and my screenshots are just like Twix 101.. :(Look my systemconfig)

Grtz...Ross....

[liquid_rockface]

Does the water move? Realistically?

The textures look awfully stretched and drab and ala FS9 :sad: In many of the screens at least.

That one cockpit shoot looks GREAT!!

[all-fired-up]

Does the water move? Realistically?

The textures look awfully stretched and drab and ala FS9 :sad: In many of the screens at least.

That one cockpit shoot looks GREAT!!

Being that this is Microsoft's first demo of Flight Simulator (there never has been a demo of FS), and that this is a BETA I think what we see in this isn't finished, including textures. Plus the goal of this version of MSFS is to utilize the 64 bit power of Vista and DirectX 10 which will only be for Vista and beyond. So I wouldn't judge the textures too harshly at the moment.

I feel the water moves realistically comparted to FS9, yes but I know it can be better. Also it's a relief to see reflections off objects and land onto the water. Airplanes finally show reflections and shadows although they aren't finished yet.

Also it's a relief to see that MSFS is going to virtual cockpits like FO is, and they do allow you to see the 2D one and cycle through panels with the "A" key.

[Funky]

Then why the heck do I get 5-20FPS ?? and that's on a clear day!!! My anti aliasing isnt working either:nono:
I posted this earlier but I guess it was overlooked...


Am I supposed to be getting single digit FPS up to 20 FPS with my system? I mean come on !! For some reason some of the graphics are jacked up also. For example, anytime a light goes on, the graphics flicker on the plane, instead of lighting up.
In addition to that, the water looks really pretty, but I cant see the distance from myself to it. I will crash into it when I think I'm at 1500 feet. It basically doesn't show the distance or change as I approach it.
And the third thing:

WHERE IS HEAT BLUR ?!?!?!?!?!

PS. My anti aliasing doesnt work in fullscreen mode!

Funky

In addition to that, the sun doesnt shine off of the airplanes like it does in the screenshots...

Funky

[bingo]

Funky
You should be getting far better FPS than single digit up to twenty, you should be getting at least 30+ with your system,thats a good rig and graphics card, what drivers are you using? Have you updated any software or installed any new software lately thet could be causing a conflict? I'll do a little research................

[all-fired-up]

Funky
You should be getting far better FPS than single digit up to twenty, you should be getting at least 30+ with your system,thats a good rig and graphics card, what drivers are you using? Have you updated any software or installed any new software lately thet could be causing a conflict? I'll do a little research................

You OUGHT to be getting screaming graphics with your rig -

You have a:
CPU: AMD 4200+ X2
RAM: 2 Gig DDR400 Dual Chanel
MOB: ABIT AN8-SLI
GFX: XFX 7800GTX OC
PSU: 480W TT
SC: Audigy 2

This is what I did. I found I had the wrong video drivers on my system, Windows XP Pro instead of Windows XP Media Edition. Double check over at Nvidia http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp

I don't know what version of Windows XP you have, but go through the steps and double check you have the latest drivers. That's what fixed my graphics immediately. First they were showing all the signs that you describe, then once I had the right drivers, my FSX demo soars, literally!! Very smooth and I only have a Nvidia 6800GT card w/ 256 memory in it. I also have 2 GB RAM, and a 3.2 GHz Dell XPS 600. But it's all about the graphic card. You can having a screaming system but a poor card and your graphics will be poor, but this isn't the case with your XFX 7800GTX, that's a fast card I'm assuming.

[all-fired-up]

Funky
You should be getting far better FPS than single digit up to twenty, you should be getting at least 30+ with your system,thats a good rig and graphics card, what drivers are you using? Have you updated any software or installed any new software lately thet could be causing a conflict? I'll do a little research................

Ha! Bingo, I wrote mine without even seeing yours :tongue:

Ditto!!

[Funky]

Awesome! I'm downloading the latest right now. I tend to keep up, but I guess I fell behind this time. Now here's the thing, there was no driver for normal XP Pro; instead there was one for XP Pro x64 ... and that's the one I downloaded, since I've got XP Pro.

Now here are my noob questions. I will confess that my CMOS has never been updated by me, and that's mainly because I was afraid to screw anything up :confused: . First of all, can anybody guide me through flashing/updating my CMOS (or whatever that needs to be updated on my MB) please?
And secondly, I see that there are some updates for my motherboard's Nforce 4 chip. How do I go about updating that?

Any help is greatly appreciated... :sos

Funky

[all-fired-up]

Awesome! I'm downloading the latest right now. I tend to keep up, but I guess I fell behind this time. Now here's the thing, there was no driver for normal XP Pro; instead there was one for XP Pro x64 ... and that's the one I downloaded, since I've got XP Pro.
Funky

I think that should work, I looked up all the drivers and it looks like the drivers are the same [ForceWare Release 90, Version: 91.31] all across for WinXP and Win XP 64.

If it doesn't work, uninstall that 64 driver and do Windows XP (which is for pro and home use), but they look like the same driver.

[Warchild_82]

I have to say I am rather disappointed with those FSX screenshots on the 1st page. :nono: The screens microsoft posted of it looked so much better. I feel like they cheated us! Was everything up full detail when you were running that demo?

[all-fired-up]

I have to say I am rather disappointed with those FSX screenshots on the 1st page. :nono: The screens microsoft posted of it looked so much better. I feel like they cheated us! Was everything up full detail when you were running that demo?

It's all about the graphic cards nowadays. Don't look at those screenies and make too critical a judgement as yet because every graphic card and user settings will be different. The official FSX screenshots were probably done with DirectX 10 and Vista (something the public won't see till Jan. 2007). HOWEVER, that being said, I did get some nice shots with my Nvidia 6800GT card, very nice with exception of a few graphic glitches that were already pointed out in the demo readme.txt file.

The screenshots posted at first here don't have any antialiasing applied either and it doesn't look like display settings are set on high. Probably some driver issues too. My screenshots (on 2nd page) look nothing like the ones on the 1st page), they look much better.

[Dukey]

Having had a fly around in all the aircraft i can say I am not really to pleased, mainly because the instruments are really jerky, I am not sure why but I hope its just because they put early dev instruments in the demo. :sad:

[Funky]

I think that should work, I looked up all the drivers and it looks like the drivers are the same [ForceWare Release 90, Version: 91.31] all across for WinXP and Win XP 64.

If it doesn't work, uninstall that 64 driver and do Windows XP (which is for pro and home use), but they look like the same driver.


Hey fired up,

I went ahead and installed all the updates and what not. Once I launched FSX, almost everything looked as good as they should, and antialiasing was there too (ground textures were missing). In about one minute, however, everything started to degrade. Antialiasing went away, the light/sun reflections started to go gray, FPS dropped to single digit, up to about 20ish, and there it went. Now its back to how it was, and its really not pleasing to me to fly. Right now I understand that this is a demo and things could happen like this and I'm not really sweating it, but I sure do like to solve these issues if there was a way to solve them.

Funky

[Warchild_82]

Actually, I just downloaded the demo and it is very nice. A few glitches here and there but it does look quite promising, so I withdraw my previous statement!!

[Afterburner]

Everything was to the max on my GF6600GT.
You might wana use these Settings (where applicable) I did for you as reference buddy assuming you are using the latest Nvidia Drivers. They are still medium FSAA and AAF settings by my standard though :smile:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/Reheat/f97467ce.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/Reheat/12060be0.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/Reheat/488ae530.jpg

[Playloud]

Afterburner is giving good advice. The 8xS FSAA setting on Nvidia cards is way too much of a performance drain. The 4x mode still looks good (not quite as good), but is much faster.

[SilverWrath047]

I have been running FSX Deluxe for about a week now. I am running it on a laptop with:
Pentium M 2.26
GeForce GO 7800GTX
2 GIGS DDR2 553
XP SP2

In fligt sim, I am running with everything on Ultra High, and the AF/AA on Anistrophic, and 4x. I get on average 27FPS, and I have gotten as high as 79fps, and have dropped as low as 14FPS. I actually get higer FPS during bad weather, than I do with clear. There are also some really cool flight dynamics in FSX like Wing Flex, and G effects. Very nice.

I have also tried it with VISTA RC2 (5744) and noticed a HUGE performance decrease. avg of 8FPS dropping as low as 4 and as high as 12. I would suggest not playing on VISTA until they release DX10 Graphics cards. :wink2: