Checking your six

[partymix]

I plan to use 3 monitors-One positioned over each sholder in addition to the
main monitor. It can be quite disorienting to view whats going on behind you
looking forward. If you could invert the view then you could use mirrors instead of the extra monitors. I tried this with lomac and the view would be correct using a monitor, but 180 out using a mirror as I recall. Perhaps this
could be dealt with in another manner, say a view option in the Fighter ops?

[fatb0y60]

I to have thought about this, what do you mean it will be 180' out of phase? and therefore why u need mirrors to fix it?

[partymix]

Ok I was 180 out. Edited post-sorry

[fatb0y60]

so u want to put 2 monitors either side of the main monitor to display the rear veiw...? I dont understand, if you put the back veiw ie from 4:00o'clock>6:00o'clock and 8:00o'clock>6:00o'clock then put the monitors behind u it would work fine...why do it with mirros if u could just put the moitors infront of u - why u would want the back veiws in front of u i have no idea...but maybe i dont understand ur idea!

[partymix]

The monitors work fine- The idea is not to use the extra 2 monitors. Instead use a mirror over each sholder eliminating the monitors. The mirrors would give
you the view of your main monitor. This view seen in the mirror would be 180 out. Now if you had a snap view available that was inverted, looking in the
mirror over each sholder would give you the correct view.

[fatb0y60]

ahh now i understand! Yeah thats not to bad of an idea actually, but it may take some stuffing around to get it right...

You would still have to change the veiw tho...doesnt this defeat the purpose of having the 6o'clock veiws behind ?

[Gecko6]

This is more of what I want to do with my A-7 cockpit.

I will use something like this.
http://www.qualitymobilevideo.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/T-6509MS.jpg

I will have two or three of them if I can find some small enough. Then use the ingame video for mirrors and display them on these sun visor screens.

[fatb0y60]

thats a good idea to...

[partymix]

1) You look over say your right sholder at the mirror.
2) At same time you are selecting right side view in program.
3) You are viewing the inverse of the front monitor in the mirror.
4) This makes it look like you are viewing the left side.
5) If an inverse view was added to Fighter Ops it would give you the
ability to invert monitor view.
6)This would make the view seen in the mirror now correct.

Perhaps The Fops team could do this if its not too much trouble?

[partymix]

I know some of the aircraft have rear view mirrors within the program.
Is your intent to set up video mirrors and then look at them while selecting
a rear view? I am not sure I understand.

If you use over the sholder mirrors and then real mirrors instead of small monitors it would be a cheaper and perhaps less complex method.

[Buckshot]

I honestly think in a 3d pit enviroment this would be a hell of a lot of trouble for very little gain. For realism it'd be much easier and better just to stick a monitor behind you.

[SUBS17]

I know some of the aircraft have rear view mirrors within the program.
Is your intent to set up video mirrors and then look at them while selecting
a rear view? I am not sure I understand.

If you use over the sholder mirrors and then real mirrors instead of small monitors it would be a cheaper and perhaps less complex method.

Do what Buckshot said, use a monitor behind you and use real mirrors on the pit.

[Gecko6]

The A-7D had three rear view mirrors. Two on either side and one center mass.

I am going to use the mini monitors for checking my six. Al I have to do is look up and the mirrors will show me what is behind me. I will not turn my head.

I do not plan to have side or rear views. I am going to project the main screen on a screen in front and hopefully have it wrap around to about 10 - 2 oclock views.

Other then that I will fake it. I may even paint the inside of my canopy black to keep my garage stuff out of my vision.

[partymix]

A reverse image may be of little gain to the fighter ops developers
and the rearview mirror to mirror idea may be impractible. However
eliminating a video splitter, video and power cables, and two more
monitors to obtain my desired goal for the cost of a couple mirrors
is pretty practable to me. I have not scrutinised the reflected
image in any great detail to see if it is even usable with standard
mirrors. Not everyone has an unlimited budget, space or design for
portability or is even going to build a pit. The masses probably won't,
not yet anyway. As pit builders we have to make our desires known
for consideration as we can't run over to Boeing for the latest sim.
If FOPS is going to be an on going developement then why not? I would
rather stick with one "Title" and pay the development(enhancement) cost over time than to be switching to a new "Title" every other year and never seeing everything pit builders want. Thanks all for your input.