Deep Stalls

[Vampyre]

Can anyone tell me how to get the Viper out of a deep stalled state. The jet stays pointed in the same basic direction and the nose wobbles around pitched up above the horizon line on the hud. I've tried to recover the jet numerious times and haven't figured stall recovery on that thing yet. Is it something that should be completly avoided or can one recover from it? All the usual stall recovery techniques I've used simply do not work.

[Shatterer of Worlds]

Deep stalls are pretty easy to get out of once you know how to do it. When the deep stall starts:

1. take your throttle to idle
2. move the MPO switch to the OVRD setting
3. cycle in phase. For example, if the nose is heading up then pull back on the stick and keep it back until you reach the "top". Then, as the nose begins to drop push forward and keep forward until the nose strats to pitch back up. In other words you increase the oscillations. After something like 3 to 6 pitch oscillations, the aircraft will get out of the stall.
4. keep your nose down to increase speed then throttle up
5. place the MPO switch back into its normal setting.

[Vampyre]

Thanks Shatterer, I'll give it a try now.

[Shatterer of Worlds]

Yeah, let me know how it works for you.

[Vampyre]

Worked like a charm. Thanks a lot, much appreciated.

[Pacman]

Hey guy's,

Isn't the MPO switch "spring fed"??
Meaning that when you release it it jumps back to it's default position??
I might be wrong here.

Dirk

[Shatterer of Worlds]

Hey guy's,

Isn't the MPO switch "spring fed"??
Meaning that when you release it it jumps back to it's default position??
I might be wrong here.

Dirk

Yes, in the real jet it has to be held or it will spring back.

[Buckshot]

If you want to know how to avoid getting into a deep stall, be carefull of assaulting the limiters in 2 Axis at the same time.

To explain in more detail, the F16 being fly by wire, has limiters on the various axis, ie if you pull full back on the stick, the computer decides just how much deflection to give you, same with roll, the problem comes when you are up against two limiters at the same time, this can lead to a condition where you depart normal flight and enter a deep stall.

[Vampyre]

I had the damnest time just trying to get the thing to stall so I shouldn't have any problems staying out of trouble. I totally forgot about the control limiters. Once I got into the stall I tried everything I could think of to get out of it. I tried every combination of flight control inputs numerous times. After the sixth time ejecting at about 3k I figured I'd just ask and maybe someone would know. Thanks for the added info Buck. I think I'll go see if I can get it into a really good spin now... In other words, To be Continued....