View Full Version : lockon 1.1 videos!!!!
BignChunky
10-11-2004, 11:45
ok, i know this is a fighterops forum but as a fightersim fan you´ve gotta love the new ultra realistic flightmodel.
video nr 1: http://www.lockon.ru/movies/Virtual%20stunt%201.wmv
video nr 2: http://www.lockon.ru/movies/Collisions%201.wmv
enjoy!
:bigeyes: wooooooooow..... speechless...... must have.....
The videos looks nice but I can´t hear anything. Are they without any sound?
Yep, no sound but looks very good. The best animation and flight model I've seen in a flight sim. I like the cartwheels, nice. Only problem with crashing on the runway is the FOD, gotta use the other runway on HL when that happens lol.
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BignChunky
10-12-2004, 11:13
does anyone know if fighter ops will have a flightmodel as good as this?
Redstormer
10-12-2004, 11:46
These movies are really rocking! Very, very, very nice!
But there is no sound. It was mentioned before..........!
But never a doubt, it is looking great!
:clap:
does anyone know if fighter ops will have a flightmodel as good as this?
Yes it will, do take into account that FO isn't even a year in development.
And lock on has been for several years now (big guess is at least 3-4 and that could even be more, not sure).
We will get to it, but just as the gentlemen at lock on at our stage, we have other priorities, please do not expect these things in the initial release.
The biggest advantage of our product is that we will keep upgrading it year after year after year.
IMO this is a combat simmers dream comming true having a sim based on the bussinessmodels of MSFS and X-plane continuosly improving.
Best regards,
Buckshot
10-13-2004, 01:24
Well lets get things straight here also, this has nothing to do with flight models, this is damage modelling. Even then, although those videos show a damage/crash model that is miles ahead of any current sim, even the untrained eye can see it is also very far from perfect. Before anyone jumps on that statement, let me make this clear, as I said this is far ahead of anything anybody has attempted to date, and I am impressed by it, however to call it "ultra-realistic" is a fairly sweeping statment, ultra-realistic - compared to what has been done previously, sure, but ultra-realistic period, not by any means.
Well surely Buckshot, Realism is only relative.
Today's simulators which have High-fidelity Flight models, in 10 years time will seem old and simple. Yet there is no doubt that today's flight models on high fidelity sims are superb, and can be termed "realistic"
Surely by that notion, no sim will ever achieve an "ultra-realistic" level, if it can ALWAYS be improved upon.
Watch the video Virtual Stunt, it most certainly shows evidence of the new advanced flight model!
:wink2:
I think the landing itself is the biggest sign of major improvements for LockOn. Notice the Su25Ts undercarriage and also behaviour as it lands. Thats very cool. Good to see that landings won't be quite as easy anymore with V1.1. BTW the reason there is no sound is perhaps they're improving that too.
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Bladehawk
10-14-2004, 14:13
Ok ... Lockon again... :sad:
A "very" hyper realistic Why ??? just because it as marvelous graphics ? ok... So, ACE COMBAT 5 is the MOST realistic FLIGHT SIM EVER MADE, the level of graphic detail is so Hi (128 bits) that nothing comes close... but in the end..." He Is Just a FAAAAantastic ARCADE" :wink2:
LockOn features the most realistic damage model including FOD, most realistic physics modeling and the most detailed terrain of all combat flight sims at the moment. You cannot compare it to ACECOMBAT 5 because if you play it enough you would realise there is alot more detail there than any other flight sim. Also the weapons behaviour and the modeling of the missiles is way beyond anything else currently available. With V1.1 one aircraft, SU25T will have an Advanced Flight Model. That being said its just a prime example of what can happen when a dedicated team work together on a program and improve it to the level it is in V1.1. Maybe someday FO will reach this level.
cheers
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OK boys and girls lets just sit back and think what we are all saying "This is better than that" "My dog is better than your dog". We are all fans of flight sims no matter who made it thats why we are at FO forums for a new flight sim so lets give each other and flight sims some respect please. Any one that knocks other peoples hard work should take notes, These people spend a lot of time making flight sims for us to enjoy no matter how good or bad they are. There are some out there that are better than others so only fly the ones you enjoy and stop bashing the work you have not put in, seen or tried. And if lockon is doing work to better their sim, why are people trashing it. I love flying lockon there are somethings that need work thats why some of the guys from lockon have split ubisoft coz they can better lockon by doing so, and the work I have seen so far is great, it is better than what we have available today hyper realistic or not these are what we are flying today until something better comes out and it will, so lets just enjoy them if not there are a lot of weeds in our back garden so you are more than welcome to come over and pull them out. Me..... I will just keep playing the sims I enjoy.
LaWMaN out........... :mad: and yes I still have a flu cough cough
Buckshot
10-15-2004, 05:45
Well said Lawman, rep inbound.
Here is some info on lomac read the parts in Red as FO has already gone this way :thumb:
Lomac Add-Ons, Next Patch, Current situation
Posted or last updated on Saturday, August 21 2004 @ 12:46 PM (-0400 GMT)
A lot is going on in Russia and Lomac. Now that UBISoft no longer supports the product; Eagle Dynamics, the product developer, is planning a Add-on release of the Su25T in the following months. Eagle Dynamics is also planning a 2005 add-on release of the KA50 Russian helicopter to work also as an add-on in Lomac.
Igor Tishin, Director of Eagle Dynamics made the announcements in the Official Lomac forums, he also announced the launch of the Eagle Dynamics web site were they will begin interating directly with their customers, taking the plunge on a new direct sales model where the publisher is no longer taking part on the developer profits.
Eagle Dynamics decision to go direct could be what hardcore flightsims need to really take off. If their marketing startegy to reach hardcore flight simmers work and they start selling downloadable copies of the sim and shipping internationally there will be plenty of reasons to celebrate, specially considering that they have no competition and their cost to produce software is considerably low.
Unfortunately and due to some legal issues there will NOT be an official publisher selling the boxed product here in the states, you'll have to buy it through their publisher in Russia OR using Eagly Dynamics site.
We think Eagle Dynamics reached an agreement in Russia to distribute the sim locally in their market, however, the new web site launch has to be a new business model strategy to reach international customers. If this is the case, and considering the lower costs to produce software in Russia we could be witnessing the birth of the first succesfull and profitable flight sim developer going direct to maximize their profits. This is, without a doubt excelent news and something the hardcore flightsim community desperately needs now that Falcon is slowly becoming older and older and it's community fractured.
If you want to get more info or read the official posts by Igor you can go to the forum post were he provided this information (http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=400102&f=38610606&m=116101516&r=264108516#264108516)
HMMMMMMMMM.....
All of this "web direct" stuff sounds familuar doesn't it? I think "Fighter Ops" was the first to explore this, or is all of the web stuff here just my imagination. Anyway, it is good to see that Russia has taken an active step to progress in the flight sim community. I do like the Russia aircraft modeling (as stated in a previous post) and I think this project will have a long life. This is good for everyone. I only hope that the LOMAC team keeps going, and they support "Fighter Ops" on there forums as well.
Hehe our sim isn't out yet and our bussinessmodel is already an example for other flightsims.....EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!! :bounce:
Best,
I'm not taking anything away from you but I'm not so sure that they took example on your business model. If they wouldn't go on their own the sim would die so there aren't 100 ways to proceed. It's the only thing they could do since Ubi pulled the plug on them. So how else could you publish your product when you don't have a publisher?
Anyway....what's important now is that we got a cool add-on coming and then a great new sim from you guys :wink2:
Hehe our sim isn't out yet and our bussinessmodel is already an example for other flightsims.....EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!! :bounce:
Let's hope it works for all the developers! I really hope G2i can deliver! :)
BTW... Eagle has been moving towards a direct sales model for a very long time... don't be so quick to start taking credit already. ;)
PS: how about we stop throwing around terms like "ultra and hyper-realistic" and especially "perfect"? PC flight sims will never be perfect. Let's just try to appreciate the work done by the developers to push the boundries and keep moving our hobby forward.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Shepski
PS: how about we stop throwing around terms like "ultra and hyper-realistic" and especially "perfect"? PC flight sims will never be perfect. Let's just try to appreciate the work done by the developers to push the boundries and keep moving our hobby forward.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
This will be an ultra-realistic sim. Fighter Ops will go far beyond any flight sim when it's completed (at least 3+ years from now) and the moduals that we will keep adding on will take it higher and higher. :bounce:
HMMMMMMMMM.....
All of this "web direct" stuff sounds familuar doesn't it? I think "Fighter Ops" was the first to explore this, or is all of the web stuff here just my imagination. .
hmmmmmmmm G2i the first company to think of Selling through the web??????
I don't think so....hehe
I believe its a positive step for both companies as the profits go into the developers pockets and not someone elses. More profit, more likely for improvements and add-ons.
I believe its a positive step for both companies as the profits go into the developers pockets and not someone elses. More profit, more likely for improvements and add-ons.
Though and he raised his head and thou spokeuth with thine truth and thest he sees above high and onto all truths. Thou hast spoken holy words!!!
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This will be an ultra-realistic sim. Fighter Ops will go far beyond any flight sim when it's completed (at least 3+ years from now) and the moduals that we will keep adding on will take it higher and higher. :bounce:
Ok then... please define "ultra-realistic" to us all.
Also, how does "ultra-realistic" differ from "hyper-realitstic" or "ultra-hyper-realistic" or even plain old "realistic"?
Get my point? :)
Buckshot
10-21-2004, 03:25
Yeah, I understand where you are coming from Shepski, and I agree, those terms are too easy to throw around. And too often are thrown around by people who really have no clue how to evaluate a flight model. All we can do is aim to improve upon what has been done in the past, and continue to improve upon that into the future.
:bigsmile: Those pilots are drunk no?.
I believe that they drank too much tequila yesterday at night. je, je, je.
:sad: The second video I do not like much; bad things remember to me and somebody can think badly of such.
:bigsmile: Those pilots are drunk no?.
I believe that they drank too much tequila yesterday at night. je, je, je.
:sad: The second video I do not like much; bad things remember to me and somebody can think badly of such.
http://arctos.en.eresmas.net/index_fotos/F16&F18.jpg Link is not working for me.
Just a little update her; the 1.1 website has been lunched: http://www.lockon.ru/index.php?lang=en with lot of good information :bigsmile:
Just a little update her; the 1.1 website has been lunched: http://www.lockon.ru/index.php?lang=en with lot of good information :bigsmile:thanks for the heads up:thumb:
A new video showing off the Vikhr missile in action http://www.lockon.ru/index.php?end_pos=133&scr=products&lang=en :thumb: :bigsmile:
A new video showing off the Vikhr missile in action http://www.lockon.ru/index.php?end_pos=133&scr=products&lang=en :thumb: :bigsmile: Cool they look great thanks.
I downloaded this movie last night, all I can say is Holy Sh*t! Man that games been improved big time. I wonder if those aircraft sounds are whats going to be in game. I heard the original sound guy for LockOn left early in development with it unfinished. Well all I can say is roll on the release.
cheers
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PS Russian missiles...too much Subocz vodka lol..still kill tanks though in a drunken sort of way.
I hope they spent just as much time on fixing the FPS I have a high end PC and it still chunks down. But I must say its looking very nice so far from the moves :thumb:
I wonder if those aircraft sounds are whats going to be in game. I heard the original sound guy for LockOn left early in development with it unfinished. Well all I can say is roll on the release.
cheers
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PS Russian missiles...too much Subocz vodka lol..still kill tanks though in a drunken sort of way.Yes, they are sounds from the game. It sounds like the whole sound engine has been reworked :)
Red Gold and Green
11-08-2004, 12:00
Still real bad A.I. ?
No campaign engine.
Very Few pre-made Missions (campaigns).
Still a half made game. :evils:
The A.I. was improved and there are 3 new campaigns totalling 76 new missions...not so few IMO.
Sure there is still room for improvement but it's still well worth buying.
Theres a new vid on the lockon forums.
http://lockon.ru/vid/Su_25T_In_Action.wmv
cheers
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Very nice. In my humble opinion and having trained putting out several thousand gallons of Jet-A and JP-4 fuel fires, they could enhance the graphics by adding more thick black smoke. Petrol fires produce a lot of this stuff!
LOMAC is precisely why I seriously hope FO is a success. LOMAC aint no substitute for Falcon 4. We need FO to carry our hobby forward, shallow sims like LOMAC merely carry our dying hobby closer to the console IMHO.
shallow sims like LOMAC merely carry our dying hobby closer to the console IMHO.And shallow hypocrites like yourself merely carry our dying community closer to extinction.
Here we go again... :rolleyes:
PS: are you schizophrenic by chance or is this another ploy to get a free copy of v1.1 from the developers as you did Lock On v1.0?
Buckshot
11-24-2004, 15:41
Ok lets not take this any further please. Not the place.
LOMAC is precisely why I seriously hope FO is a success. LOMAC aint no substitute for Falcon 4. We need FO to carry our hobby forward, shallow sims like LOMAC merely carry our dying hobby closer to the console IMHO.As you know F4 is just about at the end of its life and I an happy to see any flight sim good or bad come out of the woodwork, unless you like Xbox and PS2 games. And I enjoy playing Lomac and with the new 1.1 its getting better so I don't under stand why poeple bash a Dev team for making us a new flight sim it don't make sense, if poeple discredit there products all the time why would they what to spend time a money to make it better. Just don't buy it and move onto somthing else. Easy fix
LOMAC is precisely why I seriously hope FO is a success. LOMAC aint no substitute for Falcon 4. We need FO to carry our hobby forward, shallow sims like LOMAC merely carry our dying hobby closer to the console IMHO.
ROFL, have you seen any of these movies? The physics alone is setting a new standard in flight dynamics! Not to mention the Advanced flight models and attention to detail in Russian Ordanance. I think you should have a go at v1.1 before you make any statements like that.
I think you should have a go at v1.1 before you make any statements like that.
Perhaps.
Bladehawk
11-25-2004, 09:39
LOMAC is precisely why I seriously hope FO is a success. LOMAC aint no substitute for Falcon 4. We need FO to carry our hobby forward, shallow sims like LOMAC merely carry our dying hobby closer to the console IMHO.
Wise Words!!! :clap: :thumb:
Bladehawk
11-25-2004, 09:41
As you know F4 is just about at the end of its life and I an happy to see any flight sim good or bad come out of the woodwork, unless you like Xbox and PS2 games. And I enjoy playing Lomac and with the new 1.1 its getting better so I don't under stand why poeple bash a Dev team for making us a new flight sim it don't make sense, if poeple discredit there products all the time why would they what to spend time a money to make it better. Just don't buy it and move onto somthing else. Easy fix
Wise Words... :thumb: :clap:
Warchild_82
02-03-2005, 18:23
It looks fantastic, but its a shame the whole game isn't going to be like that. Still, i an't wait for 1.1 to hit the shelves.
You can't buy it on the shelves! You have to download it after you pay for it, its 1 gig.
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Warchild_82
02-03-2005, 20:37
You serious. Why would they bother doing that? :nono: I suppose its cheaper on the long run but what a pain in the arse for those that have no credit card to pay online or have no broadband connection.
The problem really, is that ED are not allowed to sell Lock-On in any western country... Ubi own the rights to sell it, and they don't want to.. so a purchase over the net is the only solution for us :doh: bying it anyway though... they need our support to continue developing flight sims :smile:
If you have a slow connection then my advice is use a friends broadband connection to download it. Likewise for the credit card you could try using a friends one but pay in advance or something. I think it will be well worth it as the AFM alone and the enhanced damage model on all the aircraft will be awesome. If you check out http://www.lockonskins.co.uk/There is a bunch of videos of v1.1 in action featuring some of the new weapon systems that will be available. On the horizon theres v1.2 which will feature a flyable Ka50.
cheers
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