Gun mode operation

[Fireball]

Haole, should the gun on the F-16 fire in a mode other than DF, STRAF or an air to air mode? I'm not sure it should be capable of firing in NAV mode as it presently will do in the Falcon 4 sim (all versions/patches). Should it be fireable if you are presently in an air to ground bombing mode?
Also, are you able to kick out chaff and flare with the Master Arm switch in SIM or OFF?
Thanks, Bo

[Fireball]

OK, anybody then! Let me phrase this question about the gun mode operation in a little more of an elementary way: should the gun on the F-16 fire when in the NAV mode, as it presently does in Falcon 4? I suspect the gun would not fire unless a specific gun mode was selected. I was hoping someone would verify its correct operation, and maybe someday that little anomoly, if it is one, could be corrected. I didn't realize this would be such a difficult question for the experts!

[Buckshot]

Hey bud, I think Haole is a bit busy at the moment, making up lost flying time from the Hurricane, I'm sure he'll be able to answer your question fairly soon.

[Wipsnake]

Haole, should the gun on the F-16 fire in a mode other than DF, STRAF or an air to air mode? I'm not sure it should be capable of firing in NAV mode as it presently will do in the Falcon 4 sim (all versions/patches). Should it be fireable if you are presently in an air to ground bombing mode?
Also, are you able to kick out chaff and flare with the Master Arm switch in SIM or OFF?
Thanks, Bo

OK bud i can try and help you out. In real life there is a firing logic in computers inside the aircraft which alow or disallow a gun system to fire. Once the complete logic is meet the gun system will fire. some examples: forward airspeed, wieght off wheels, master arm , A-A or A-G Select etc. Now depending on how the software in specific aircraft is written, is wether the gun system will fire in nav mode or not. Now Questions what are you doing flying in Nav mode with the Master Arm switched to Arm?

In most fighter Aircraft master arm is definately not required to fire chaff or Flares. It again has it's own logic which normally doesn't require the master arm switch to be set to Arm. It's a counter measure, thus is a defensive tool. Master Arm is normally required for weapons or equipment that be deemed to be offensive with some exceptions (selective jettison).

Hope this helps

[Pacman]

Yep the countermeassures are armed seperatly by manipulating a (or more) switch(es) on the countermeassures panel.

Best,

[Fireball]

Yep, thanks guys. I have it on good authority also that the cannon will not fire in the actual aircraft, and this is my point, even if you are dropping a bomb in CCIP for example, and wanted to follow up with a little strafing action. You would not be able to fire the cannon unless you quickly switched to strafe mode. Just because you are in A-G mode you should not have the cannon available unless you specifically select it. This is what I would like Haole to confirm/deny/clarify for us. And although you should never find yourself in NAV mode with the Master switch to ARM my point is that this is also modeled incorrectly; you cannot fire the cannon in NAV mode, and this needs to be changed in the F4 program (someday). Again, if Haole could confirm/deny/clarify this for us please. Personally, I never switch to ARM until just moments before I drop/fire a weapon, and then I place it right back to SIM; this is just my technique only as a last chance check to ask myself if this target is really what I want to kill. There are different techniques out there (even amongst the real deal pilots/squadrons). Some folks that I fly with online keep the Master switch in ARM the entire time they are in the combat area, so if they where in NAV to find their way home, they are set up to possibly bump the trigger/launch button which would lead to firing/dropping something unintentionally.

[Wipsnake]

. You would not be able to fire the cannon unless you quickly switched to strafe mode. Just because you are in A-G mode you should not have the cannon available unless you specifically select it. .

Again it would depend on which A/C you where flying and how the Software is written. There is all different variations of modes for using weapons and it varies from A/C to A/C I would say at an educated guess no you should be able to fire the gun while in Basic CCIP. BUT it all depends how the gun system the jet is configured. It would great to see what hoale has to say on this topic.

You are very correct it the fact that the flight model in Falcon 4 is incorrect and we definately plan to fix it for Fighter Ops.

[Wipsnake]

Yep the countermeassures are armed seperatly by manipulating a (or more) switch(es) on the countermeassures panel.

Best,

Pacman, the systems aren't really armed as such, its just turned on. The swiches may all be in the right spot but for it to work certain conditions must be meet. Again Wheels, airspeed Etc.

The Chaff/flare systems are different for most A/C. Some digital, some analoge.