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lukexcom
07-22-2004, 14:31
I've got my Private Pilot's License, so I'm used to the civilian ATC communications procedures, i.e.

-Minneapolis center, Cessna 12345, request.
-Cessna 12345, go ahead.
-Request transition through the class B at 5,500 to Anoka County.
-Cessna 345, cleared to transition through the bravo airspace at 5,500. Fly heading 350, report airfield in sight.
-Roger, transitioning the class B at 5,500, heading 350, Cessna 345.

Or for IFR flights,

-Cessna 345, airport is at your three o'clock, eight miles. Fly heading 330 until established on the localizer, maintain 3,500. Tower frequency is 126.7.
-Roger, fly heading 350 for the localizer, maintain 3,500, tower on 126.7, Cessna 345.
-St. Cloud tower, Cessna 345, inbound on the ILS 31 at the outer marker.
-Cessna 345, St. Cloud tower, number one for landing, report runway in sight.
-Roger, number one, Cessna 345.

...things of that nature, pretty much. But whenever I hear the military radio comms procedures, I hear things differently. So here's my question.

During operations in CONUS, when interacting with civilian air traffic control, what kind of communications procedures do you use, the same ones that we civilians use, or do you have your own forms of comms?

Haole
07-26-2004, 10:06
I've got my Private Pilot's License, so I'm used to the civilian ATC communications procedures, i.e.

-Minneapolis center, Cessna 12345, request.
-Cessna 12345, go ahead.
-Request transition through the class B at 5,500 to Anoka County.
-Cessna 345, cleared to transition through the bravo airspace at 5,500. Fly heading 350, report airfield in sight.
-Roger, transitioning the class B at 5,500, heading 350, Cessna 345.

Or for IFR flights,

-Cessna 345, airport is at your three o'clock, eight miles. Fly heading 330 until established on the localizer, maintain 3,500. Tower frequency is 126.7.
-Roger, fly heading 350 for the localizer, maintain 3,500, tower on 126.7, Cessna 345.
-St. Cloud tower, Cessna 345, inbound on the ILS 31 at the outer marker.
-Cessna 345, St. Cloud tower, number one for landing, report runway in sight.
-Roger, number one, Cessna 345.

...things of that nature, pretty much. But whenever I hear the military radio comms procedures, I hear things differently. So here's my question.

During operations in CONUS, when interacting with civilian air traffic control, what kind of communications procedures do you use, the same ones that we civilians use, or do you have your own forms of comms?
For the most part we use the same comms as you guys do in the civilian flying world. We just have some extra calls that are required and we try to abbreviate as much as we can to minimize time on the mic. We are required to call gear down where civilians are not required to. That is just one example. If you have specific examples, let me know and I'll explain what you heard.
Thanks for writing!