Funny Question - eye exercises?

[16thShowboat]

Haole,

This might be a load of b*ll but is there some kind of training or exercise that fighter pilots do to exercise your eyes. I had heard about it and didn't know if it was true.

[Haole]

Haole,

This might be a load of b*ll but is there some kind of training or exercise that fighter pilots do to exercise your eyes. I had heard about it and didn't know if it was true.
Haven't really heard of anything like that. Just wear sunglasses and do all the "protective" stuff like that. Try to take your eye tests in the morning since your eyes do tire throughout the day. Same with hearing tests.
Thats about all I know!
CHEERS!

[SUBS17]

Hi Haole,
do you guys use the F16s arrester hook on portable arrester kit, and do you guys land on roads like some other countries do on exercise? Will this be featuring in FO? I think in an online WAR it would be cool if that option were available. Its abit more likely in an even slugging match that alot of runways would get taken out.
cheers
SUBS

[Haole]

Hi Haole,
do you guys use the F16s arrester hook on portable arrester kit, and do you guys land on roads like some other countries do on exercise? Will this be featuring in FO? I think in an online WAR it would be cool if that option were available. Its abit more likely in an even slugging match that alot of runways would get taken out.
cheers
SUBS
No we dont land on roads so it wont be in FO (at least for now). The Air Force does have portable cable systems be we use them on runways and dont stretch them across highways, etc (at least not for Vipers yet). I guess if the you know what really hits the fan they could stretch them across some big highways somewhere and let us use them. I've seen the portable system set up on taxiways before (and used). Lots of planes coming back from the area and all of a sudden an emergency shuts down the main runway and guys are low on fuel....land on the taxiway with the cable!
I wouldnt want to land on a road...too many crazy drivers!!:bigsmile:

[Sehm]

Swedish Gripens do train to land and operate from hidden roads throughout Sweden. In case of a war, Sweden will abandon their airbases and operate from roads etc. :wink2:

[robviper]

at least not for Vipers yet

Actually the Viper's landing gear isn't supposed to be used on other surfaces than a common runway (or taxiway), is it?

BTW hey Haole, do you remember me? Can you get me some pics of your 157th Viper (details & closeups would be great)? You know I probably gonna do the skinning for FO and I think I'll come back to you some day.... ;)

blue skies,

Rob

[SUBS17]

No we dont land on roads so it wont be in FO (at least for now). The Air Force does have portable cable systems be we use them on runways and dont stretch them across highways, etc (at least not for Vipers yet). I guess if the you know what really hits the fan they could stretch them across some big highways somewhere and let us use them. I've seen the portable system set up on taxiways before (and used). Lots of planes coming back from the area and all of a sudden an emergency shuts down the main runway and guys are low on fuel....land on the taxiway with the cable!
I wouldnt want to land on a road...too many crazy drivers!!:bigsmile:

Thanks Haole I hope that the F15 and F16s in FO do feature working arresterhooks as then I'd have to say FO would be more realistic and the models would be more like the genuine article with all the working bells and whistles.e.g 100% accurate as to say 95% accurate because its there, you can't miss it. It sticks out when you see them in flight. As for the shit hitting the fan, thats the sort of campaign or on-line battle no one forgets and I'd very much like to see. I hope maybe later on we could land on roads like some of the European countries aircraft do.
cheers
Subs

[Sehm]

You call the tower for an emergency landing and suddenly you see a bunch of cars and fire trucks standing by the runway and a set of arrestor wires is stretched across the runway. So you lower the hook and do a perfect landing, then the firetrucks sprays you all white before you can even get out of the cockpit. (dreaming mode: OFF)

He he that would be awsome :bigsmile: 100 % real (well, maybe not) :wink2:

[Brethon]

Haole,

This might be a load of b*ll but is there some kind of training or exercise that fighter pilots do to exercise your eyes. I had heard about it and didn't know if it was true.

I was actually just reading about this...

From some Men'sHealth book I got one time; a guy with 20/80 vision wanted to get into naval aviation. He got a 1920's book called The Bates Method for Better Eyesight without Glasses By Dr. William Bates. He got other info as well, and started a training regime of 25 min a day, 6 days a week for 30 days. The navy measured his vision at 20/30, and he was accepted for pilot training. He got the idea from (apparently) WWII fighter pilots who would train their eyes.

IIRC George 'Buzz' Beurling (Canadian WWII ace -- 32 confirmed kills), along with endlessly crunching deflection calculations, would train his eyes. Apparently he did things like stare into space for extreme amounts of time (over an hour), and then suddenly shift his focus onto something. In this MH book, it mentioned that the guy would just do things like slowly rolling his eyes in circles.

It is fully possible to do, and apparently there are certified 'behavoirial optermatrists'. http://www.covd.org/membersearch.asp

So; there is stuff you can do, but obviously not everyone knows about it, or practices it.

Sorry I'm 7 months late, though. :bigeyes:

Just found this on www.healthatoz.com :

While visual acuity refers to how clearly each eye can see, vision training addresses how well the two eyes work together as a team. When looking at an object, the eyes must focus on the object (e.g., focusing for near or far objects). This involves the lens system of the eyes. The eyes must also work as a team and point at the same object so that the person does not see double. Aiming precisely at the same object will aid in depth perception (stereopsis) and seeing objects in three-dimensions (3D).

Although crossed eyes (strabismus) is an obvious condition, many defects in the coordination of eye movement are far less apparent. Even so, they can cause problems in reading, driving vehicles, and other complex tasks that require the integrated function of eyes and body. It is the goal of vision therapy to improve these subtle interactions using carefully devised exercises and devices.

The discipline, called "behavioral optometry," involves a careful evaluation of visual function, concentrating on complex skills such as rapid reading, distance perception, peripheral field awareness, accommodative facility, and the coordinated movement of each eye in relationship to the other. From that assessment the doctor goes on to design a course of exercises to correct the problems discovered. Like any other type of training, success requires practice and persistence until habits and reflexes can be retrained.

There are a number of different techniques and instruments used in vision therapy; the field is evolving rapidly in many directions. Some computerized exercises are being developed that promise better patient motivation. A device called the Dynavision apparatus, has produced positive results in retraining stroke victims to operate motor vehicles. And traditional forms of vision therapy have increased reading efficiency in an older age group (62 to 75 years).

Because the goal of vision training is to improve visual efficiency and visual processing, people having problems reading should consider a vision training evaluation. Children rubbing their eyes while reading, avoiding reading, or getting headaches while reading should be evaluated. Problems with sustaining focusing (accommodative insufficiency) or problems keeping words single (convergence or divergence problems) may be present. A full eye-health evaluation and vision training workup may reveal a problem. Vision training is also appropriate for people learning how to coordinate the eyes after surgery for strabismus. Vision training can also be used in lazy eye (amblyopia) and includes patching the eye and doing various exercises.


AND IN CASE ALL THAT WASN'T ENOUGH! I found the book :bounce:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0805002413/102-3356005-4080108

[*Merlin*]

Same with hearing tests.
Thats about all I know!
You mean sleeping with hearing plugs in the night before your hearing test?http://64.247.49.144/forum/images/smilies2/image01212.gif

[Warchild_82]

Hi Haole,
do you guys use the F16s arrester hook on portable arrester kit, and do you guys land on roads like some other countries do on exercise? Will this be featuring in FO? I think in an online WAR it would be cool if that option were available. Its abit more likely in an even slugging match that alot of runways would get taken out.
cheers
SUBS

What an idea, why didn't i think of that one! :thumb:

[SUBS17]

It may sound good but since I wrote that I've learned Falcons and roads don't mix. The migs and Sus that land on roads have air intakes that draw air from above the wing to prevent FOD. I actually was thinking of a WWIII mod where you lose your airfields at the start of the campaign in Europe and the players use roads etc. Another possibility for a MOD perhaps but in FO you won't be able to land on roads(at first, hopefully later on:shades: )
cheers
Subs

[JesseSil1]

Hey there. Names sil and im an avionics troop at nellis AFB nevada. I currently work on the stealth F-22. If you have any questions feel free to ask

[Cobra]

whats the maximum radar range of the F22?

plenty more q's to come once you've answered that one.

:wink2:

[Lance]

whats the maximum radar range of the F22?

plenty more q's to come once you've answered that one.

:wink2:

lol! :tongue:

lance

[Cali]

Swedish Gripens do train to land and operate from hidden roads throughout Sweden. In case of a war, Sweden will abandon their airbases and operate from roads etc. :wink2:


This is something that Sweden is concerned about, some AF's are not..they don't have to worry about being attacked.

[Vulture31]

This is something that Sweden is concerned about, some AF's are not..they don't have to worry about being attacked.

I often wonder how the US would fair if their bases were getting bombarded instead of having a safe base of operations all the time?

[Sherlock]

I often wonder how the US would fair if their bases were getting bombarded instead of having a safe base of operations all the time?

We'd nuke 'em. Then they wouldn't have ANY bases. We'd win then. :lol

[Emohawk]

We'd nuke 'em. Then they wouldn't have ANY bases. We'd win then. :lol

And if the country you were about to nuke also had nukes ? nukes vs nukes = no winner :sad:

[Redstormer]

And if the country you were about to nuke also had nukes ? nukes vs nukes = no winner :sad:

That is M.A.D. (mutual Assured Destruction). That was the "system" that held the Cold War cold

[SUBS17]

I often wonder how the US would fair if their bases were getting bombarded instead of having a safe base of operations all the time?

Well actually not all bases are safe to land at which is why they practice the Tactical approach and yes there are bases that aren't safe to do normal approaches where they use the Tactical approach everyday. If you have FSX try the Corkscrew mission which teaches you the tactical approach in a Learjet. This is how they avoid AAA and manpads carried by insurgents etc.

[SUBS17]

And if the country you were about to nuke also had nukes ? nukes vs nukes = no winner :sad:

Not if stealth hit the enemys nukes 1st.:bigsmile:

[Emohawk]

Well, you got a point there... Still I would prefer a no-nuke scenario in the real world ;)

[Cali]

I often wonder how the US would fair if their bases were getting bombarded instead of having a safe base of operations all the time?


Since the US has bases all over the world........whoever bombed our base would surely die :evils: It is good to have a excellent air force that controls the skies.

[Vulture31]

Since the US has bases all over the world........whoever bombed our base would surely die :evils: It is good to have a excellent air force that controls the skies.

Other countries have bases all over the world and nukes too :confused: When US pilots have come up against pilots of equal skill the result have been 50 50. Unless of course its up against us Aussies in that case its usually 100% Aussies win :thumb: f111 shot down raptor I wonder how that happened.:confused: Raptor sleeping:evils:

SUBs thanks for the corkscrew approach never heard of it before will read up on it cheers:bigsmile:

[SUBS17]

Get yourself a copy of FSX the missions in there although be warned its not for the faint hearted in FSX fun though :wink2:.

[Sherlock]

And if the country you were about to nuke also had nukes ? nukes vs nukes = no winner :sad:

It was a joke guys. I was just kidding.....:thumb:

[Cobra]

lets get this one back on topic pls.

:smile:

[Vulture31]

Haole,

This might be a load of b*ll but is there some kind of training or exercise that fighter pilots do to exercise your eyes. I had heard about it and didn't know if it was true.

I realise my response is 4 years late but. No in Australia there are no eye exercises. Just healthy eating and exercise of the physical kind.

RAAF, Army and Navy Pilots at Basic Flight Training are taught a scanning technique called ALAP: attitude, lookout, attitude, performance. This isn't second hand info I was personally instructed on this and the following.

Your visions works based around cells in your eyes names cones and rods.
Cones= Colour vision, depth perception therefore this is the part of the eye you use when focused on an object.
Rod= Monochrome vision, spot movement and use for night vision.

During the day a pilot scans the sky never fixating on one point. If the Rods spot movement then you will automatically focus on it using the cones to get more information on the object, like size, distance, direction of movement that sort of thing.

During the night pilots are tought not to look directly at the object the are trying to see as cones don't function as well as Rods at night. I can't remember the correct scanning technique it been a while since I was taught it. Hope this helps. :tongue: