2004 release system requirements?

[Chisel]

Hi there to F.O. team.

Q. Given the 2004 release goal, how does the "high fidelity" programming of fighter ops relate to the current average PC specs? F4 with it's dynamic campaign engine and it's updated "tree" count (spk) etc can slash the FPS rate below the comfort line. Even on my xp2000 ddr333 9600xt machine I have seen sub 15's FPS counts. Graphical improvemnts over F4 whilst retaining and improving on the dynamic theatre and flight modelling would suggest many current systems will require an upgrade.

All the best,

kind regards

Chisel out

[Vlerkies]

That is a good question, i would also like to know what the System req. will be :thumbsup:
But i think it is still a bit too early to give accurate sytem requirements



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[IxianMace]

Yeah, this is important, although I'd like the simulation to look nice, I'd also like to be able to fly it. :) Since I won't be able to get a whole new rig for some time, my 64MB GeForce II is going to have to do for now...

[Juggernaut]

Hi,

The FAQ says the Q4 2004 release will just be a demo with a mission editor included - no dynamic campaign for the demo.

I would not expect it to kill anyone's system...but I suppose it will mostly depend on how far they get with the demo and how complex the terrain engine ends up being in the demo.


Juggernaut


Hi there to F.O. team.

Q. Given the 2004 release goal, how does the "high fidelity" programming of fighter ops relate to the current average PC specs? F4 with it's dynamic campaign engine and it's updated "tree" count (spk) etc can slash the FPS rate below the comfort line. Even on my xp2000 ddr333 9600xt machine I have seen sub 15's FPS counts. Graphical improvemnts over F4 whilst retaining and improving on the dynamic theatre and flight modelling would suggest many current systems will require an upgrade.

All the best,

kind regards

Chisel out

[Vlerkies]

That's also very true

[Balu]

It couldn´t be so bad as LockOn and his requirements

[Vlerkies]

It couldn´t be so bad as LockOn and his requirements


:lol: :thumbsup:

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[IxianMace]

:thumbsup:

From what I've read, I'm not even supposed to be able to run Lock On on my rig, but somehow, I got it working, LOL. Yes, even with everything turned down as crap as it can get, the game stutters and lags horribly, except in straight and level flight. At least I can run it though.

I'm hoping that I can get reasonably good FPS with Fighter Ops, otherwise I might just buy it and keep it on the shelve until I can get a new rig, as in the case with Lock On. :-p

Of course, I'll be tearing my hair out looking at the package sitting on my shelve and not being able to play it, but good things come to those who wait, right? :punk:

[Vlerkies]

Yep good things should come to people who wait


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[Ender Wiggin]

:thumbsup:

From what I've read, I'm not even supposed to be able to run Lock On on my rig, but somehow, I got it working, LOL. Yes, even with everything turned down as crap as it can get, the game stutters and lags horribly, except in straight and level flight. At least I can run it though.

I'm hoping that I can get reasonably good FPS with Fighter Ops, otherwise I might just buy it and keep it on the shelve until I can get a new rig, as in the case with Lock On. :-p

Of course, I'll be tearing my hair out looking at the package sitting on my shelve and not being able to play it, but good things come to those who wait, right? :punk:
Mainly because Lomac wasnt designed to run on an older GF2, but 3's and higher ie DX8 cards.

[toga]

Any chance with my ZX81 Sinclair ?

:mrgreen:

Cheers,

P.S.: I'be bought the 16k upgrade you know, still no floppy though, always using my good ol' tape reader :thumbsup:

[Nav_LTC_421st_XO]

Well just excited about the possibilitys of what Fighter OpS is offering.I would be nice to have a sim that everyone can use without to much of a hard ship on their part(cashwise),but that may be a little difficult to do ,and still make it Look Good/Fly well/,and play well for everyone.
Trying to please everyone I suspect will be the biggest challange(probably) impossible.We've all had our hopes dashed more than a few times in the past over Flight Sims.
I think the key is take the time you need to make it right(as much as possible) the first time,and give out as much facts as you can within the guidelines of the organization,so we can all plan ahead,for system changes that are surely to come,without to much hardship.

Look forward to any updates and wish the Team well in their quest for what appears to be a remarkable Sim.
:thumbsup:

[IxianMace]

Mainly because Lomac wasnt designed to run on an older GF2, but 3's and higher ie DX8 cards.

Yeah, I knew that from before I bought the game, since I did a lot of reading in various places to find out about LOMAC. I just found it funny how I was even able to run it (I wasn't expecting that), despite everything that I read leading me to believe the contrary.

[Slasher16]

That IL-2 FB is a great example of te kind of graphics/performance that the FO team should be shooting for. With my card, a 9600 XT, 512 2700 RAM and a 2.6 XP processor. I can run IL-2 with all settings maxed and 4x af and 2x aa. And it looks beautiful. Everything in that game is stunning and it the graphics doesnt choke your cpu. They should shoot for a balance like il-2 seeing as the dynamic campaign and overall complexity of a modern jet sim are enormous and can easily slow a cpu down.

[Vlerkies]

That is a very good statement Slasher. It would be great if they can get a balance betwee graphics and performance :thumbsup:


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[The Syndicate]

:thumbsup:

From what I've read, I'm not even supposed to be able to run Lock On on my rig, but somehow, I got it working, LOL. Yes, even with everything turned down as crap as it can get, the game stutters and lags horribly, except in straight and level flight. At least I can run it though.

I'm hoping that I can get reasonably good FPS with Fighter Ops, otherwise I might just buy it and keep it on the shelve until I can get a new rig, as in the case with Lock On. :-p

Of course, I'll be tearing my hair out looking at the package sitting on my shelve and not being able to play it, but good things come to those who wait, right? :punk: I just purchased LOMAC a month ago and I tried playing it once and it ran so slow I went to the store around the corner, came back and it was just starting the menu screenhttp://www.nellis.af.mil/images/banner_main.jpg

[jhook]

Pilots, I think this game will have the advanced graphic instructions in it, so running an older video card will have it's share of problems. I also think that you can turn off all the graphic yummies and the game should run very well! :thumbsup: The first thing to get, when you are able to, is a new video card. Video cards are, in it'self, there own computer. The FPS is dictated by the video cards on board CPU and co-processors. The rest of the computer is important, but the video card should be first. Remember, this will be a high fidelioty sim. You might want to same up them cookies for the big pie! :o Let's just say, I got a feeling that the graphical yumies are going to be exceptionally tasty!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[MegOhm]

Ahhh I am another Pilot excited by what I am reading here. No sweat about sys requirements. What I am concerned about is the ambitious project statements of a Q4 demo. Its almost Q2.....someone better get hopping lol!

Really guyz, all I ask is that it be as right as you can get it out of the box. Please don't rush it to get it on the market generating revenue. Take care of the BUGS as a priority before release so we don't have to wait for Patch upon patch to fix them. :roll:

Man this background gives me a headache and my eyes are crossing, this is hard to read...lighten this place up! :shock:

[Ky3Mu4]

Just to say "Hello" to all peeps here. Looking forward to see a good sim, this community deserves. OT: i can get blind with background colors of the forum, do something, its real pain... :shock:

[jhook]

It is good to see a Russan Federation simmer on line with us. Welcome! As I stated, I think an International Ops will be planned to some degree, featuring the MIG and Su family. And of course, my fave Russan built plane, the Su-37!!! :thumbsup: I've seen air demonstrations of this lady and my GOD!, the angles of attack are astonishing! :o :thumbsup:

[Vlerkies]

Yeah jhook, the Su-37 is a truly impressive A/C :thumbsup:


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[The Syndicate]

Just to say "Hello" to all peeps here. Looking forward to see a good sim, this community deserves. OT: i can get blind with background colors of the forum, do something, its real pain... :shock:Das svadanya, comrade....(sorry I only know a very small working knowledge of Russian so don't hit me with a barrage of dialect :D :thumbsup:
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[Vlerkies]

hehehe :drink:


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[Faucon]

Hi Guys,

I don't know if the graphic card alone can make for better FPS. I have Falcon 4.0 with SuperPak 3. I used to play with a Matrox G400 Max and switched for an ATI 9200. Ok I know the 9200 is not the fastest graphics card out there, but still represents an improvement from my G400. In spite of that, I didn't notice FPS improvement at medium settings (bubble settings to 4 among other). I have a duron 1200 with 384 MB Ram.

My point is that I believe how good the game is implemented has probably more impact than the hardware used. But I do believe the new project shall stand upon better programming practice. I would hope they use more recent technology such as adaptative tesselation.

Is it possible Falcon 4.0 doesn't take full advantage of GPU power, or am I being choked by Dynamic Campaign processor hungryness?

I get around 10FPS in the Maverick training mission, just over the city where the targets are.

Anyway, I'm eager to put my hands on that new SIM. I have Faith!

:-p :military:

[Vlerkies]

Welcome to the forums Faucon. Remember F4 code is years old, and there are a lot of bugs in it. So it doesn't support new GPU's to the fullest as well as newer DirectX versions, all this due to the code being very old. Te dynamic campaign system does have a minor impact on FPS, depending on how many units are in your Bubble.
So you can mostly blame F4's struggle with FPS on it's old code


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[jhook]

I was running Falcon 4 SP3 with a 1800xp and a Voodoo 5 5500, and had the same problem. Reduce your player bubble to 3. It will speed up the game. Also, reduce some of your settings/density down a notch and play with the FPS a little. The new video cards make most of the difference! :thumbsup: