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Bushmaster78FS

03-09-2011, 23:54

I just wanted to create a thread to raise some awareness what can keep us busy nowadays... I have been out of the loop since last year due to flight school and I got a little time right now to get involved again... So this is what I know...

DCS A-10: going to order this one...
FSX Add-ons
VRS Superbug/TacPack: Doesn't even look like FSX anymore does it, this is on the list...
Aerosoft F-16: Will give this one a shot...
Jet Thunder: Playable yet?
Combat Helo: No demo yet but maybe soon ...
SevenG: Playable yet?
Lockon: What is the latest on that? Gotta have LOMAC for Flaming Cliffs 2 I think...
Blackshark: Not too much interest from me towards eastern blok choppers...But heard 64A addon...
Rise of Flight: Purely for educational purposes I considered this but it looks awesome and no dev group/team ever considered this much of detail for a WWI sim.

What else out there can we fly nowadays? What is coming what is going? I see that flight sims are once again becoming popular over first person shooters maybe?

Revelation

03-10-2011, 03:59

DCS A-10C is phenomenal. Any serious flight simmer will want this one, ED have done a great job. The DCS series doesn't have a dynamic campaign, which I think is the only negative against it. You can't really go wrong with FSX either, still put some time in that one too.

Jet Thunder isn't released yet, at least the last time I checked, it should be coming out soon though and I'm looking very much forward to some Harrier Ops. SevenG is still a ways off and Combat Helo will not be serious enough for me to pickup. There's nothing new with Lockon, it had its time. Blackshark is still a great sim to fly every now and then - awaiting the compatibility patch for DCS: BS and DCS: A-10c.

A key thing to remember, support all developers as much as you can that devote themselves to our niche market.

Bushmaster78FS

03-10-2011, 15:15

BU_Terrier

03-10-2011, 17:15

Rise of Flight. Great sim if you like old school aircraft.

Bushmaster78FS

03-10-2011, 17:35

Oh yes I am adding that to the list...

petherf

03-11-2011, 13:33

And dont forget IL2 Cliffs of Dover( Release date ca 25/3

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/8071032709

marcelbrabson

03-12-2011, 15:07

I don't care much about the dynamic campaign, even with F4 I barely touched campaign, I like single missions. DCS A-10 is going to happen for me.

Why is Combat Helo not serious for you? Having worked on Longbows and now that I will be flying them, I think Rich put a good amount of effort to get it detailed to the speck. Just saying, I will be probably beta testing it.

I wonder if they are going to do the AH-64A Addon for the DCS:BS... Not to much into Russian hardware...

I hope that DCS does a A-64 Addon. That's the only way that I will even consider buying KA-50. Don't get me wrong they make some great sims. I have A-10C and love it. I'm like you. I'm an American. Former F-16 Viper driver and I just can't bring myself to fool with a Russian aircraft unless I'm blowing it out of the ****ing sky. Just my two cents.

xhaos

03-13-2011, 05:41

I'm an American. Former F-16 Viper driver and I just can't bring myself to fool with a Russian aircraft unless I'm blowing it out of the ****ing sky. Just my two cents.

Newsflash: Cold war is over and fanaticism is bad for you.

marcelbrabson

03-13-2011, 17:07

Newsflash: Cold war is over and fanaticism is bad for you.
Who said anything about being a fanatic? Is it wrong to be patriotic? Son let me tell you something I spent 16 years of my defending this great nation at the height of the "Cold War" I ask you to please don't attempt to lecture me. The U.S. is the best nation on the planet hands down. Now whoever doesn't like what I say. Oh fracking well.

Deckerd

03-13-2011, 18:07

Newsflash: Cold war is over and fanaticism is bad for you.

Did someone say :fanaticism?????
http://www.theberserker.net/berserker/Demotivators/Fanaticism.jpg

Seriously, i really understand marcelbranson. I'm not an American but i can't get used to flying russian aircraft. I guess it's Hollywood indoctrination. See my mother was born in Russia but i still prefer shooting down Migs to flying them...

marcelbrabson

03-13-2011, 22:13

Dude don't get me wrong Russia makes some outstanding fighters. The Sukois & Migs are not the type of jets that you want to take very serious or you will die. But as I stated I'm an American. Nothing else needs to be said.

Sherlock

03-14-2011, 18:51

Did someone say :fanaticism?????
... See my mother was born in Russia but i still prefer shooting down Migs to flying them...

"We shoot down MiGs"
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/23654

:rofl

marcelbrabson

03-15-2011, 21:05

"We shoot down MiGs"
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/23654

:rofl
We are of the same mind. I like that. Anyone who thinks that just because the cold war is over that the Russians are now our friends is a fool. Putin cannot be trusted. The Soviet Union is not dead. Just sleeping.

BHawthorne

03-16-2011, 03:32

So, if Pride Aircraft just gave you one of those SU-27s they have, you'd refuse it? :red:

marcelbrabson

03-16-2011, 11:31

So, if Pride Aircraft just gave you one of those SU-27s they have, you'd refuse it? :red:

I didn't say that. You'd have to be a fool to do that. I'd take it and hit the airshow circuit and make some cheese. Especially since American made fighters are hard to come by. And we're talking about sims here not actual aircraft. If I had the choice between Pride's SU-27 and a F-16. It's a Viper all the way.

xhaos

03-16-2011, 12:17

We are of the same mind. I like that. Anyone who thinks that just because the cold war is over that the Russians are now our friends is a fool. Putin cannot be trusted. The Soviet Union is not dead. Just sleeping.

http://www.adelekirby.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/DoubleFacePalm.jpg

Cobra

03-16-2011, 21:01

Lets try and keep on topic and keep the politics off these boards.

Thanks

:smile:

SUBS17

03-17-2011, 03:31

Check out this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ILqIQDaio&feature=player_embedded

Eihort

05-27-2011, 10:22

Wait? Americans don't fly migs?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reVZ9aPYi9A

http://www.amazon.com/Red-Eagles-Americas-General-Aviation/dp/1846033780/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1306510032&sr=1-1

SUBS17

05-27-2011, 16:14

That Mig21 may have been from this:

Munir Redfa (Arabic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_language): منير ردفا‎) (born Munir Habib Jamil Rufa) (Arabic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_language): منير حبيب جميل روفا‎) (1934 – circa 1998[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munir_Redfa#cite_note-ynetnews-0)) was an Iraqi fighter pilot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighter_pilot), of ethnic Assyrian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyrian_people) origin, who defected (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defection) to Israel in 1966 by flying a MiG-21 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stealing_a_Soviet_MiG) of the Iraqi Air Force. In what is considered as one of the Mossad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mossad)'s most successful operations, Redfa's entire extended family was smuggled safely out of Iraq to Israel. The MiG-21 fighter was evaluated by the Israeli Air Force (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Air_Force) and was later loaned to the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) for testing and intelligence analysis. Knowledge obtained from analysis of the aircraft was instrumental to the successes achieved by the Israeli Air Force (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Air_Force) in its future encounters with Arab MiG-21s.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munir_Redfa#cite_note-ynetnews-0) Redfa's defection was the subject of the movie Steal the Sky (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steal_the_Sky).
He was the second of nine children. Like many other Assyrians, his family fled to Iraq as part of the Christian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian) migration from southeast Turkey northwestern mountains following the Assyrian Genocide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyrian_Genocide).
After Redfa's defection, a press conference was held during which he indicated that he had suffered from religious and ethnic discrimination in Iraq and that he did not feel that it was his home, and requested asylum in the United States. Although he was reunited with his family in Israel, he did not re-emigrate to the US, contrary to his declaration, and he received Israeli citizenship. He and his family shortly thereafter moved to another western country. Shortly after Redfa's defection, Iraqi Christians were not allowed to join the air force per orders from Iraq's then-president. This order was still true until the US invasion of Iraq in 2003, although the commander of the Iraqi Airforce for a time was another Assyrian, Georges Sada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Sada), who also defected.
Redfa died sometime around 1998 of a heart attack.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munir_Redfa#cite_note-ynetnews-0)

Something else happened there as well.

After the defection of the Assyrian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyrian_people) Iraqi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq) Captain Munir Redfa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munir_Redfa), 3 MiG-21F-13 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiG-21) and at least 6 MiG-17 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiG-17)F Algerian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algeria) pilots were captured by Israel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel) after landing their aircraft at Israeli el-Arish Air Base by mistake, one of the captured Algerian pilot asked and was granted political asylum in the west, while the rest were repatriated.